Wednesday, May 7, 2008

Magna Carta

Please post at least three sentences here once you have completed the reading. At least one of your sentences must focus on Magna Carta, but you can also ask questions about/find resources about China if that seems interesting to you.

Remember to use the format for posting a link that we went over in class (it's on the assignments page)

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

The reading mentioned barons (I already had an idea of what they were) and I looked up some facts about barons.
Ahref="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/Lord-red.png">Here is the baron coronet.
It also talked about Shi Huangdi's terracotta army. It mentioned that it had horses in it which was something I didn't know. I found a ahref="http://img.alibaba.com/photo/11066369/Terracotta_Horse_Statue.jpg">picture
I also found a ahref="http://www.magnacharta.com/articles/article04.htm">site that talked about what the Magna Carta has meant for American law. It says that it is the source for our most fundamental concepts of law. Many cases between 1870 and 1900 were looked at through the eyes of the Magna Carta (and this number keeps increasing). King John wanted to annul the Magna Carta, but died before he could.

Anonymous said...

I looked more at King John of England, whom the Magna Carta was first imposed upon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_England
is where I looked first. He was the younger brother of Richard the Lionheart (The General tried to take Jerusalem from Saladin during the Third Conquest). John was so inept as far as the military was concerned that he was nicknamed "Soft Sword". In this respect, John's signing the Magna Carta could very well be considered an accident, for he was a foolish man in some sense.

Anonymous said...

I looked more into King John and his relationship with the barons. I found a great website which speaks about this topic Ahref="http://www.crf-usa.org/Foundation_docs/Foundation_lesson_magna.html">site
King John wanted to have an invasion of France and in order to accomplish this he needed soldiers and money. King John called English barons and demanded them to be on his side and fight for him in the French War. However, many barons refused so King John punished them by attacking their castles.
I also found a great picture of the Terracotta army. There were 8,000 warriors in all. They stand in long corridors and some have fallen or been smashed but most of them are still standing up in military formation. Ahref="http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/09_01/terraarmyMS0809_468x342.jpg">site

Anonymous said...

I decided to look up the Charter of Liberties, which preceded and inspired the Magna Carta.
This Wikipedia article is not super informative, but it gives a basic overview. The Charter of Liberties was a less restrictive version of the MC, mostly including laws about the king's treatment of clergy and the pope. Because it had been put in place by a king (Henry 1, here is a photo) subsequent kings felt they could ignore it, and it was not really paid attention to, unlike the Magna Carta.

Anonymous said...

I was interested in Runnymede, since it is the sight of the singing of the Magna Carta. I found that there is a Magna Carta memorial there. It says "To commemorate Magna Carta, symbol of Freedom Under Law". Wiki Article A picture of the memorial can be found here:
Picture

Anonymous said...

Why did the king and the pope get in a fight? Why did Venice have so much less of a population compared to China? One interesting thing I also saw from the reading was that in the Terra Cotta Warriors, I did not know that as well as the warriors, there are horses, weapons, and chariots as well that were made of bronze. In the beginning of the reading, it mentioned King John's seal and I was interested in what it looked like and this is the link I found. It is quite elaborate and got me interested in other types of seals and lead me Chinese seal script (a type of Chinese calligraphy). Seal scrip doesn't really work anymore because many people cannot read it because it is a type of calligraphy.

Anonymous said...

translation of magna carta

i learned from this website about the translations of the Magna Carta text. i also learned that Magna Carta was written by many people and the text that made it onto the document was bargained.

margna carta viewer

i thought this website was REALLY cool because i was able to view the actual magna carta. and there was an audio that went with it along with the ability to zoom in on certain parts. i thought it was really really neat.

Anonymous said...

I found a translation of the Magna carta as well, but then saw that bretty already posted it. When i was looking over it, many of the words were unfamiliar. So for more refrence i looked up some of them.

- Aforesaid - Previously said
- Wapentakes - "an administrative subdivision in northern English counties, developed under Norse influence, and corresponding to hundreds in the rest of England" Wikipedia Dictionary
- Wardship - "Wardship was the right of the lord over the person and estate of the tenant, when the latter was under a certain age"
Legal Definition

Amercement - "Law To punish by a fine imposed [randomly] at the discretion of the court"
- Free Dictionary

Anonymous said...

I looked up which King the Magna Carta was first affected by this document, and found it was King John.

I then found this cool link about the similarities between the Constitution and the Magna Carta: Constitution and Magna Carta

Anonymous said...

In the wiki reading i was interested in King Henry I of England because he said that his power was below the law's power. I thought this was interesting so i googled him and found his wiki site which is
text of link

This link gives you everything you need to know about King Henry I.

What i learned from this site was that his reign was noted for its political opportunism. Which i thought was interesting because it is saying that this was a very powerful government in a sense.

Anonymous said...

I chose to look at how the Magna Carta took its roots in America. The main connection shared by the colonists and the barons was the idea that no one was above the law. They wanted a system that put a limit on King George III. They attempted, to settle things peacefully, but unlike the Magna Carta, this had to be settled in war rather than the peace. This however could be due to the fact that the people in the Magna Carta were bother closer and less opposed, unlike the Colonists, who were opposing an entire country
Source: href="http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/charters_of_freedom_1.html">The American Charters

Anonymous said...

As I was reading I was wondering what the king's reaction of Magna Carta was like? It's not as if they just let it happen.

Magna Carta

Wikipedia actually says that "In practice Magna Carta mostly did not limit the power of the King in the Middle Ages" but it was more of a symbol.

Anonymous said...

I wanted to find out how similar the Magna Carta and the U.S constitution were.

Here is a quote from a page on how some idea read about in the "Declaration of independance originially came from Magna Carta.

"Such Revolutionary War era principles as habeas corpus and the wrongness of taxation without representation drew their roots from English Law of the 17th century that was based upon the Magna Carta. King George had violated these laws...in effect placing his decisions above the law of the land, and this gave the Colonists not only the right to seek freedom, but a responsibility to do so."

Magna Carta and Declaration of Independance

It also mentioned that King John lost "many great swathes of English land in France..." and I wanted to find out how he lost all of that land.

This Wikipedia Article States...

"The European wars culminated in defeat at the Battle of Bouvines (1214), which forced the king to accept an unfavourable peace with France."

King John losing Land

Anonymous said...

One thing I wanted to find was the location of Chang'an, the city today known as Xi'an mentioned in the reading. Map of Chang'an

The reading also mentioned a 13th-element alloy, so I went to look at the 13th element. It appears that the terracotta weapons were made out of Aluminium, which wikipedia says "is remarkable for its ability to resist corrosion".

Anonymous said...

When I finished the reading, I wanted to look at some specific Magna Carta laws. My question: What parallels are there between Magna Carta and American Law today? However, I couldn't find a site that went over some of the laws that parallel those of America's today. Then I came across this site about the influence it has greatly had today.
Magna Carta and American Law

Some of the things mentioned in the site include how up until the Civil War, Magna Carta was used by the Supreme Court in fewer than a dozen cases. Then between then and 1900, about 30 cases used Magna Carta. However, since 1940, Magna Carta has been used and commented on about 60 times. It's had an increasing affect. Other things it mentioned were the no taxation without representation and right to trial by jury.

Anonymous said...

I personally found the contrast between ancient China and modern China fascinating. This, to me, is one of the major appeals about going to Europe or Asia, where you can literally walk past a modern office building, cross the street, and be in a 500 year old city.

Anyway, on to what I looked into. My intrest was piqued about the King of England having a dispute with the Pope. The small amount of stuff I knew about the Church of England was basically that it was created when England wanted to attain its power back from the Pope.

What I found out from reading The Wikipedia about it was that "The Church of England" started immediately before the beginning of the seventh century, when the King of England asked the pope to send over some missionaries. The Church did not seperate from the Pope until King Henry VIII was not permitted by the Pope to get a divorce. He then had an arguement put together from religious sources "proving" the illegitemacy of Papal rule.

Anonymous said...

In this book I have called Horrible Histories - The Measly Middle Ages by Terry Deary, it has a part on Magna Carta. "The first Angevins were just like the first Normans. Father (Henry II) fought against sons Richard I, Geoffrey and Henry. But this time the boys had their mother, Eleanor, on their side. (Henry II tamed her treachery by locking her away for 16 years!) Henry's favourite son was young John. When Henry that John had joined his three brothers it broke the old king's heart. He died. Richard took the throne. (His heart was a lion heart so it was harder to break.) Of course, Richard went off Crusading and got himself captured. John looked after the country, spent the royal money and made plans to pinch Richard's throne. Richard forgave John ('You are just a child,' he said), then very kindly went off to another battle and got himself killed. John was king! But one of the measliest monarchs of the Middle Ages. He liked fine clothes, fine food, fine girlfriends...and he enjoyed upsetting people...
- John laughed at the long beards and national dress of the Irish princes - the Irish cheiftans were upset.
- John married his cousin; The Archbishop of Canterbury objected but John got the Pope to overrule him - the Archbishop of Canterbury was upset.
- John arranged for the murder of his greatest rival, Arthur of Brittany in France - the French king (Philip II) was upset and went to war (though Arthur was too dead to be upset).
- John picked a new Archbishop of Canterbury against the wishes of the Pope - the Pope was upset.
- John raised huge taxes from the English people and the barons to fight against France; the war went badly and the barons were upset. This, of course, led to...
The Barons made John agree to give power back to them and the people; no taxes, no wars and no laws unless the people agreed..."

Anonymous said...

I was reading the second document and realized that I didn't know was a baron was, so I looked them up.
Wikipedia gave a nice summary: "Baron is a specific title of nobility. The word baron comes from Old French baron, itself from Frankish baro meaning 'freeman, warrior'; it merged with cognate Old English beorn meaning 'nobleman.'" There were greater and lesser barons, and the greater barons had a council called the "house of lords" while the Magna Carta represented the lesser barons. Barons also wear a hat called a coronet, but it was mostly worn on special occasions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron

Anonymous said...

I was interested in the Terra Cotta Soldiers that were mentioned. I know we already went over these but I really wanted to see more pictures since the reading went into such depth about them but I've only see about 4 or 5pictures of tomb and soldiers.

I found these sites.
Well Preserved Statue
Vast Collection

Soldier's Detailed Face

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