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I thought it was interesting that Luther never thought he was good enough to be forgiven of his sins. I also thought that it was interesting that he was a teacher at Wittenberg University. I wondered about how he was viewed by the Christians and other religions when he challenged the Pope on many accounts and started to criticize things such as indulgences. I learned that Katarina Von Bora, Luther's wife, was a significant participant the in Protestant Reformation prior to marrying Martin Luther.
Early in the reading it mentioned that the Lutheran sect of Christianity is one of the largest still and I wanted to find out what percent of all Christians are Lutherans. I look at this website and found that the Lutheran population is over 68.3 million people as of February 15th, 2008. Another thing they talked a lot was about how Luther was very devoted to the rules and did everything extra and later in life found out that all of that was wasted. I was curious about what the definite rules of being a Lutheran are. Like how much you have to fast and how many prayers you have to do everyday. These are St. Benedict's rules for being a monk but do not really answer my question of how much. One other word I was unclear about was ecclesiastics and defined by dictionary.com, it is "A minister or priest; a cleric."
I wanted to figure out more about the differences in each sect of Christianity. On Wikipedia it has what sect originated where. Eastern Orthodoxy originated from Eastern Europe in the Great Schism. However Western Europe is the origin of many more sects (Roman Catholic, Lutheran, Baptist, Methodist).
Anyways, I found out from here that Christians rely on the Bible whereas Catholics also believe that the Pope is an important figure for their religion.
Catholics compromise more than half of total Christians and Protestant denominations comprise around 40% of Christians worldwide. This is a good picture that shows how Christianity has been divided in history.
I wanted to look more into the 95 Theses about not only what they were about but how they were written. I found that they were written in Latin before being translated to German.
Another part that I found interesting was that Theses number 21 stated "Thus those indulgence preachers are in error who say that a man is absolved from every penalty and saved by papal indulgences." I thought this was an interesting one just because to me it said that the Pope had thought of himself as above the law and Luther was saying that this should not be. I used This Link
In the first part of the reading it mentions the Protestant faith and how the Lutherans, Luther started the first Protestant church, are not the only Protestants. I Was interested in finding out more about the Protestants, and what denotes a Protestant. According to the wikipedia entry on Protestantism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant), the word Protestant is derived from a Latin word meaning Declaration. Protestants reject the Papal authority, saying that "salvation can only be achieved through God's grace alone". Protestants follow The Five Solas listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestantism#Theological_tenets_of_the_reformation.
Early in the reading, it mentioned that Luther's patron saint was St. Anne. I hadn't heard of her and decided to look her up. This Wikipedia Article reveals that St. Anne was the mother of the Virgin Mary and the grandmother of Jesus. It says that there are many myths about St. Anne, including that she was a virgin when she gave birth (like her daughter) and that she was free from original sin like her daughter. These myths are condemned by the Catholic Church, and some Catholics don't consider her a saint. I thought this ironic because, like Luther himself, his patron was cast from the Catholic Church. Here is a picture of St. Anne.
i thought this reading was very interesting, at the beginning of the reading Martin Luther seemed passionate and organized in his thoughts and actions as a monk, but later in life it seemed he became out of wack.
i wanted to continue research on Johann Tetzel. i learned from this site that he was born in 1460 in Germany. he is defined as a "seller of indulgences".
I was interested in learning more about Katharina Von Bora--who then became Katharina Luther. The reading mentions that Katharina "had neither family connections nor a likely prospect in town... She made it plain that she wanted to marry Martin Luther himself." At first, Luther "still took his excommunication seriously enough to consider it an impediment to marriage." After a while, however, they finally got married and had six children. After doing some research, i found out that little is known about Katharina.Despite this, Katharina is often considered one of the most important participants of the Reformation because of her role in helping to define Protestant family life and setting the tone for clergy marriages. She is commemorated in the Calendar of Saints of the Lutheran Church on December 20. Wikipedia has very interesting facts about her life. This site also gives a brief description of her life and some important dates.
In the reading the term "indulgence" came up. I researched the term and found the Catholic Culture's: History of the Indulgence . An indulgence was either a temporary or full forgiveness of a person's sins. These very powerful religious gifts were normally given for a large religious sacrifice to the church, such as intensive prayer or fasting. These gifts were normally very rare but over time monks began to abuse this power, and as we see in the reading, they would even begin to sell "decrees" that comepletely fake for a profit. These decrees were also given to people of power, as well as Crusaders. One of the most controversial indulgences given was the one that allowed for the construction of St. Peter's Basilica in Rome. Reforms were constantly attempted, although few ever destroyed the problem.
1) How is it that both sides walked away with victory, when the reading was talking about how there was this huge debate between Tetzel and Martin Luther?
Random Fact and Idea When I typed Martin Luther into Google pictures to see what he looked like, a related search came up with John Calvin. What I found is that even though they really didn't have a whole lot to do with each other, they both were reformers of the Christian Faith. John Calvin developed a system known as Calvinism. Wikipedia says the difference is that Luther went through different ideas throughout his life, he didn't always believe the same thing. As opposed to Calvin, who always had the same idea his whole life about Christianity.
I also found this site that tells you all of the major reforms in Christianity. Including people such as Martin Luther, John Calvin, Erasmus, and Charles V. Click here for the link.
While reading, I decided that I wanted to find out a little more about Luther's bible that he had translated into the German Language. I found that, in order to translate it correctly, he went to hear the bible spoken by German people in order to get the correct meaning and way of speaking of the German people.
Quote from the wikipedia article...
Luther added the word "alone" to Romans 3:28 controversially so that it read: "For we account a man to be justified by faith alone, without the works of the law."[citation needed] The word "alone" is nowhere to be found in any Biblical manuscript.
In the reading, I found it interesting that time and time again, Martin Luther defied the church. I found it pretty interesting that Martin Luther was able to get away with so much stuff. He kept talking back to the Pope (and later the Emperor) and still he didn't back down-instead he kept making letters and pamphlets. Obviously much of that was helped by the new printing press.
I decided to quickly look into Frederick the Wise since he was a defender, but not a believer of Luther. On the Wikipedia article, it says that he was actually a candidate for Holy Roman Emperor by Pope Leo X. Here is a picture of Frederick. Here's also one picture of what Luther's room in Wartburg castle looked like. As a sidenote, Wikipedia had a picture of what a coin looked like in Saxony from then.
I was curious about Martin Luther's family life with Katharina von Bora, the nun who he ended up marrying after her escape from the convent left her with no other place to go. I found from Wikipedia that when they married, Katharina was 26 and Luther was 42. They had 6 children, 2 who died early in life, as the reading states. From that site I also found that Martin Luther and Katharina got a wedding present from John Frederick, a former monastery to live in. I thought it was cool that John Frederick still supported Martin Luther after all he did to be looked at negatively by society. The website also said that Katharina helped earn money for the family. I was happily surprised to see this, since most women around that time wouldn't have paying jobs, or they'd be confined to the household.
Why did Luther take his excommuntication so seriously? Since he was constantly bashing the Catholic Church, he couldn't have been that concerned about looking bad.
Why did he help the 12 nuns escape from their abbey? Was he liberating them from the Catholic Chruch?
How many pamphlets did he print? It must have been tons if the authorities could catch them all. At this site, it explains that between the years of 1518 and 1520, before he split from the Catholic Church, he printed only thirty pamphlets. That is the only information I can find. I cannot find anything about how many he made when he was in hiding.
As I went through the reading, I was curious about a couple of things.
The first was Saxony - I wanted to know exactly where it was. Saxony (Sachsen in German) is in eastern Germany. The capital is Dresden, the largest city is Leipzig. Source.
Secondly, I was curious about the Elector of Saxony. A wikipedia search brought me to a wikipedia entitled "List of Rulers of Saxony". The wikipedia article had a list of the Electors of Saxony, but the only description it offered was "The Golden Bull of 1356 confirmed the right to participate in the election of a Holy Roman Emperor to the Duke of Saxony in the Saxe-Wittenberg line." Not terribly helpful.
"Golden Bull of 1356" was a hyperlink, so I followed that. It sent me to this page. It turns out that this "Golden Bull" was actually a decree that solidified law for several hundred years.
So, putting all that together, I think that it means that the Elector of Saxony is the Duke of Saxony who has the power to participate in an election for the emperor.
I wanted to know more about Frederick III, Elector of Saxony (or Frederick the Wise). He lived from 1463-1525. He is most famous for, as we read, protecting Martin Luther. Martin Luther taught at Frederick's university, the University of Wittenburg. Wittenberg was the "home" of the reformation movement. Frederick opposed the power of the pope and instead of acting outright, he did the next best thing which was sheltering Martin Luther. I found it interesting that the reading said Martin Luther was "spirited out of Worms in disguise" after he was condemned by Charles, but this website says that Martin Luther was actually kidnapped on Frederick's orders to protect him.
A quote from the PBS website says "He was a man of peaceful conciliation and kept his territory out of all warfare during his reign," which is interesting because a lot of rulers were fighting at this time.
Also, Wikipedia says that "Frederick was Pope Leo X's candidate for Holy Roman Emperor in 1519 — the pope had awarded him the Golden Rose of virtue on September 3, 1518", so he was well respected by the pope.
In the reading, it mentioned the rivalry between Augustine and Dominican monks. Augustines are monks who follow the Rule of Saint Augustine, one of the earliest guides for religious life. The idea behind the Augustine order appears to be retreating to a quiet life of prayer and study. Dominican monks, on the other hand, belong to an order that was founded in the 13th century. The idea behind the Dominican Order was to preach to the people in cities. The inherent rivalry between the groups might be the fact that while Augustines are dedicated to a life of study, Dominicans rely on their teachings to survive. (Dominican monks give up all their possessions, preaching to gain food and shelter).
I found it interested how devoted Luther was at being a monk, and how persistent he was at becoming one after he had barely survived the lightning. It also interested me how Martin Luther made such a huge desicion from moving from a future career in Law, to religion, and the criticism he had to endure in order to pursue his dream. Not only did he just become a monk, but he helped to reform the catholic church from a corrupt system to a more spiritual and holy church.
when i was reading i noticed that it said he took all his sins very painfully and that was really interesting to me. I was also wondering why he was so hard on himself on staying very pure? What were some of the main things that made him want to stay so pure to god?
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I thought it was interesting that Luther never thought he was good enough to be forgiven of his sins. I also thought that it was interesting that he was a teacher at Wittenberg University. I wondered about how he was viewed by the Christians and other religions when he challenged the Pope on many accounts and started to criticize things such as indulgences. I learned that Katarina Von Bora, Luther's wife, was a significant participant the in Protestant Reformation prior to marrying Martin Luther.
Early in the reading it mentioned that the Lutheran sect of Christianity is one of the largest still and I wanted to find out what percent of all Christians are Lutherans. I look at this website and found that the Lutheran population is over 68.3 million people as of February 15th, 2008. Another thing they talked a lot was about how Luther was very devoted to the rules and did everything extra and later in life found out that all of that was wasted. I was curious about what the definite rules of being a Lutheran are. Like how much you have to fast and how many prayers you have to do everyday. These are St. Benedict's rules for being a monk but do not really answer my question of how much. One other word I was unclear about was ecclesiastics and defined by dictionary.com, it is "A minister or priest; a cleric."
I wanted to figure out more about the differences in each sect of Christianity. On Wikipedia it has what sect originated where. Eastern Orthodoxy originated from Eastern Europe in the Great Schism. However Western Europe is the origin of many more sects (Roman Catholic, Lutheran, Baptist, Methodist).
Anyways, I found out from here that Christians rely on the Bible whereas Catholics also believe that the Pope is an important figure for their religion.
Catholics compromise more than half of total Christians and Protestant denominations comprise around 40% of Christians worldwide. This is a good picture that shows how Christianity has been divided in history.
I wanted to look more into the 95 Theses about not only what they were about but how they were written. I found that they were written in Latin before being translated to German.
Another part that I found interesting was that Theses number 21 stated "Thus those indulgence preachers are in error who say that a man is absolved from every penalty and saved by papal indulgences." I thought this was an interesting one just because to me it said that the Pope had thought of himself as above the law and Luther was saying that this should not be. I used This Link
In the first part of the reading it mentions the Protestant faith and how the Lutherans, Luther started the first Protestant church, are not the only Protestants. I Was interested in finding out more about the Protestants, and what denotes a Protestant. According to the wikipedia entry on Protestantism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant), the word Protestant is derived from a Latin word meaning Declaration. Protestants reject the Papal authority, saying that "salvation can only be achieved through God's grace alone". Protestants follow The Five Solas listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestantism#Theological_tenets_of_the_reformation.
Early in the reading, it mentioned that Luther's patron saint was St. Anne. I hadn't heard of her and decided to look her up. This Wikipedia Article reveals that St. Anne was the mother of the Virgin Mary and the grandmother of Jesus. It says that there are many myths about St. Anne, including that she was a virgin when she gave birth (like her daughter) and that she was free from original sin like her daughter. These myths are condemned by the Catholic Church, and some Catholics don't consider her a saint. I thought this ironic because, like Luther himself, his patron was cast from the Catholic Church. Here is a picture of St. Anne.
i thought this reading was very interesting, at the beginning of the reading Martin Luther seemed passionate and organized in his thoughts and actions as a monk, but later in life it seemed he became out of wack.
i wanted to continue research on Johann Tetzel. i learned from this site that he was born in 1460 in Germany. he is defined as a "seller of indulgences".
I was interested in learning more about Katharina Von Bora--who then became Katharina Luther. The reading mentions that Katharina "had neither family connections nor a likely prospect in town... She made it plain that she wanted to marry Martin Luther himself." At first, Luther "still took his excommunication seriously enough to consider it an impediment to marriage." After a while, however, they finally got married and had six children. After doing some research, i found out that little is known about Katharina.Despite this, Katharina is often considered one of the most important participants of the Reformation because of her role in helping to define Protestant family life and setting the tone for clergy marriages. She is commemorated in the Calendar of Saints of the Lutheran Church on December 20. Wikipedia
has very interesting facts about her life. This site also gives a brief description of her life and some important dates.
In the reading the term "indulgence" came up. I researched the term and found the Catholic Culture's: History of the Indulgence . An indulgence was either a temporary or full forgiveness of a person's sins. These very powerful religious gifts were normally given for a large religious sacrifice to the church, such as intensive prayer or fasting. These gifts were normally very rare but over time monks began to abuse this power, and as we see in the reading, they would even begin to sell "decrees" that comepletely fake for a profit. These decrees were also given to people of power, as well as Crusaders. One of the most controversial indulgences given was the one that allowed for the construction of St. Peter's Basilica in Rome. Reforms were constantly attempted, although few ever destroyed the problem.
1) How is it that both sides walked away with victory, when the reading was talking about how there was this huge debate between Tetzel and Martin Luther?
Random Fact and Idea
When I typed Martin Luther into Google pictures to see what he looked like, a related search came up with John Calvin. What I found is that even though they really didn't have a whole lot to do with each other, they both were reformers of the Christian Faith. John Calvin developed a system known as Calvinism. Wikipedia says the difference is that Luther went through different ideas throughout his life, he didn't always believe the same thing. As opposed to Calvin, who always had the same idea his whole life about Christianity.
I also found this site that tells you all of the major reforms in Christianity. Including people such as Martin Luther, John Calvin, Erasmus, and Charles V. Click here for the link.
While reading, I decided that I wanted to find out a little more about Luther's bible that he had translated into the German Language.
I found that, in order to translate it correctly, he went to hear the bible spoken by German people in order to get the correct meaning and way of speaking of the German people.
Quote from the wikipedia article...
Luther added the word "alone" to Romans 3:28 controversially so that it read: "For we account a man to be justified by faith alone, without the works of the law."[citation needed] The word "alone" is nowhere to be found in any Biblical manuscript.
I found this interesting.
In the reading, I found it interesting that time and time again, Martin Luther defied the church. I found it pretty interesting that Martin Luther was able to get away with so much stuff. He kept talking back to the Pope (and later the Emperor) and still he didn't back down-instead he kept making letters and pamphlets. Obviously much of that was helped by the new printing press.
I decided to quickly look into Frederick the Wise since he was a defender, but not a believer of Luther. On the Wikipedia article, it says that he was actually a candidate for Holy Roman Emperor by Pope Leo X. Here is a picture of Frederick. Here's also one picture of what Luther's room in Wartburg castle looked like. As a sidenote, Wikipedia had a picture of what a coin looked like in Saxony from then.
I was curious about Martin Luther's family life with Katharina von Bora, the nun who he ended up marrying after her escape from the convent left her with no other place to go. I found from Wikipedia that when they married, Katharina was 26 and Luther was 42. They had 6 children, 2 who died early in life, as the reading states. From that site I also found that Martin Luther and Katharina got a wedding present from John Frederick, a former monastery to live in. I thought it was cool that John Frederick still supported Martin Luther after all he did to be looked at negatively by society. The website also said that Katharina helped earn money for the family. I was happily surprised to see this, since most women around that time wouldn't have paying jobs, or they'd be confined to the household.
Why did Luther take his excommuntication so seriously? Since he was constantly bashing the Catholic Church, he couldn't have been that concerned about looking bad.
Why did he help the 12 nuns escape from their abbey? Was he liberating them from the Catholic Chruch?
How many pamphlets did he print? It must have been tons if the authorities could catch them all. At this site, it explains that between the years of 1518 and 1520, before he split from the Catholic Church, he printed only thirty pamphlets. That is the only information I can find. I cannot find anything about how many he made when he was in hiding.
As I went through the reading, I was curious about a couple of things.
The first was Saxony - I wanted to know exactly where it was. Saxony (Sachsen in German) is in eastern Germany. The capital is Dresden, the largest city is Leipzig. Source.
Secondly, I was curious about the Elector of Saxony. A wikipedia search brought me to a wikipedia entitled "List of Rulers of Saxony". The wikipedia article had a list of the Electors of Saxony, but the only description it offered was "The Golden Bull of 1356 confirmed the right to participate in the election of a Holy Roman Emperor to the Duke of Saxony in the Saxe-Wittenberg line." Not terribly helpful.
"Golden Bull of 1356" was a hyperlink, so I followed that. It sent me to this page. It turns out that this "Golden Bull" was actually a decree that solidified law for several hundred years.
So, putting all that together, I think that it means that the Elector of Saxony is the Duke of Saxony who has the power to participate in an election for the emperor.
I wanted to know more about Frederick III, Elector of Saxony (or Frederick the Wise). He lived from 1463-1525. He is most famous for, as we read, protecting Martin Luther. Martin Luther taught at Frederick's university, the University of Wittenburg. Wittenberg was the "home" of the reformation movement. Frederick opposed the power of the pope and instead of acting outright, he did the next best thing which was sheltering Martin Luther. I found it interesting that the reading said Martin Luther was "spirited out of Worms in disguise" after he was condemned by Charles, but this website says that Martin Luther was actually kidnapped on Frederick's orders to protect him.
A quote from the PBS website says "He was a man of peaceful conciliation and kept his territory out of all warfare during his reign," which is interesting because a lot of rulers were fighting at this time.
Also, Wikipedia says that "Frederick was Pope Leo X's candidate for Holy Roman Emperor in 1519 — the pope had awarded him the Golden Rose of virtue on September 3, 1518", so he was well respected by the pope.
In the reading, it mentioned the rivalry between Augustine and Dominican monks. Augustines are monks who follow the Rule of Saint Augustine, one of the earliest guides for religious life. The idea behind the Augustine order appears to be retreating to a quiet life of prayer and study. Dominican monks, on the other hand, belong to an order that was founded in the 13th century. The idea behind the Dominican Order was to preach to the people in cities. The inherent rivalry between the groups might be the fact that while Augustines are dedicated to a life of study, Dominicans rely on their teachings to survive. (Dominican monks give up all their possessions, preaching to gain food and shelter).
I found it interested how devoted Luther was at being a monk, and how persistent he was at becoming one after he had barely survived the lightning. It also interested me how Martin Luther made such a huge desicion from moving from a future career in Law, to religion, and the criticism he had to endure in order to pursue his dream. Not only did he just become a monk, but he helped to reform the catholic church from a corrupt system to a more spiritual and holy church.
sorry this is late.
when i was reading i noticed that it said he took all his sins very painfully and that was really interesting to me. I was also wondering why he was so hard on himself on staying very pure? What were some of the main things that made him want to stay so pure to god?
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